This was an absolutely fascinating chat – it chimed with me on a number of different levels and it could have been an hour longer if I'm honest.
Carl is a newly qualified counsellor. We talk about the process of his qualification and the journey he took to get there.
Content warning: We do talk about suicidal ideation and self harm in this episode, please bear this in mind when listening.
Thanks as ever for listening, please do get in touch if you have any questions, comments or feedback. Next week will contain our first listener questions!